tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1405022718926116083.post4909768199462230301..comments2023-11-05T07:27:24.048-05:00Comments on Cassy Fiano: Obama: Our troops are air-raiding villages and killing civiliansUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1405022718926116083.post-86974426067877683332007-08-30T19:16:00.000-04:002007-08-30T19:16:00.000-04:00Wow gredd... Huck smacked you around pretty good!Wow gredd... Huck smacked you around pretty good!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1405022718926116083.post-52917437680416918742007-08-21T21:43:00.000-04:002007-08-21T21:43:00.000-04:00gredd - You're just flat out wrong. Here's what h...gredd - You're just flat out wrong. Here's what he said again, as quoted by Cassy: "We've to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there." He never said we're deliberately targeting civilians. He said were air-raiding villages and killing civilians when we do so. And he said this in the context of not having enough troops to do more than air-raid villages when we get intelligence that there is an Al-Qaeda or an insurgent stronghold in such a village. That's the "get the job done" part. So, it's clear that he's saying the way we go after the bad guys, air-raiding villages, which is a product of not having enough troops, results in the collateral casualties of innocent civilians. That's quite clear, and any person who gives an honest reading of what Obama said would agree. But forget Obama. Just between me and you. Again, I ask you (and please answer me this time instead of deflecting), does this not happen? Do we not air-raid villages where there are suspected Al Qaeda and/or insurgent hideouts and are not civilians sometimes killed in the process? It's a simple question.<BR/>If the answer is yes, then no one can rightly say that Obama is lying.Huckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15878450464298055466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1405022718926116083.post-49014893047518641672007-08-20T19:19:00.000-04:002007-08-20T19:19:00.000-04:00Huck, that's not what he said!! He said we're del...Huck, that's not what he said!! He said we're deliberately targeting civilians. That's what he has to prove. He completely leaves out who we're targeting so it gives one the impression we're just flying over towns and dropping bombs. He did a stupid liberal thing of opening his mouth and talking far left. The left did it with Vietnam, and they're doing it today with Iraq.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1405022718926116083.post-23505376608758727062007-08-20T10:19:00.000-04:002007-08-20T10:19:00.000-04:00gredd - Are you kidding me? Obama didn't make an ...gredd - Are you kidding me? Obama didn't make an accusation, he stated a fact. Where have you been? We read almost weekly about U.S.-led aerial and ground attacks on Al Qaeda/insurgent hideouts. Some would argue that it's a critical part of the effort to win the war. And we also know that civilians, unfortunately, get killed in these raids. If you would, just answer me this one question: Do you deny that the U.S. engages in air raids in Iraq in which innocent civilians get killed?Huckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15878450464298055466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1405022718926116083.post-19614094810864615122007-08-19T02:01:00.000-04:002007-08-19T02:01:00.000-04:00Um, Obama made the accusation, burden of proof is ...Um, Obama made the accusation, burden of proof is on him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1405022718926116083.post-40072638532643335852007-08-18T19:20:00.000-04:002007-08-18T19:20:00.000-04:00Well, the question is whether or not our troops ar...Well, the question is whether or not our troops <I>are</I> air-raiding villages and whether or not civilians are killed as a consequence. Is it "slander" to suggest that civilians get killed in the crossfires of war? And is it untrue that our troops participate in air-raiding villages in the hunt for Al Qaeda and other insurgents there?<BR/><BR/>Are you denying that U.S. troops haven't been tried and convicted by U.S. military courts of killing Iraqi civilians? Are you denying that U.S. troops participate in air raids of supposed Al Qaeda hideouts in Iraq and that civilians sometimes die in such raids?<BR/><BR/>There is nothing slanderous about this. Perhaps you think this is an unfortunate, but necessary reality of war: air raids will happen and civilians will be killed. But that's different than saying Obama slanders the troops by recognizing what happens. And for you to think that this doesn't happen, especially when every honest reporter of the war, whether conservative or liberal, acknowledges that it does, is to have your head in the sand about war.<BR/><BR/>War is not pleasant business. It is brutal. And, even though we try to minimize it, civilians are gonna get killed.<BR/><BR/>Unless you can provide evidence that U.S. troops haven't engaged in air raids in Iraq in which civilians have been killed, your "outrage" at Obama's "slander" of our troops is nothing more than pure partisan puffery.Huckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15878450464298055466noreply@blogger.com